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davidt
on Thursday November 22 2001, @10:00AM
Since there is absolutely no other news to report, here are some followup numbers for the curious: The Best Of Morrissey second week sales: 1,773.
In comparison, The Cure's Greatest Hits (with two new tracks, also offered with a limited edition second CD of acoustic versions) sold 32,452 in its first week, making it to #58 on the chart according to A Chain Of Flowers.
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this doesn't mean much of anything (Score:1)
2. The cure had new material on their CD. Compare to the mute response of Moz's Best of...CD vs. the frenzy generated by the unreleased tracks several months ago.
3. Most people who are fans of Morrissey already own most of his CD's. The casual listeners who this is aimed at don't know about it coz there is no marketing campaign! Unless they just so happened to be in the right music store and just so happened to be looking for a Van Morrison CD and this caught their eye, they generally aren't going to know about it.
4. Most artists on a label sell about 5,000-7,000 albums. Look on Warner's website and see that you have never heard of a good portion of their artists.
5. Most compilation albums in America just don't sell that well. The British run out and buy it. Look where the Smith's re-release charted with no new material! That's why most of them have bonus tracks and new material on them.
So, in relative terms, Moz's CD is not selling too badly!
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Best of most of..... (Score:1)
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the moz has the cure (Score:1)
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Soundscan (Score:1)
See sales are only counted for record stores that are registered with Sound Scan. Generally speaking, major chains (Tower, Wherehouse, etc) are in fact registered. But your typical "indie" shop sales go unreported. The store I work in has been in business for over 5 years and it is only about 6 months ago that we signed on to report our sales. Every Sunday we modem in our weeks sales to SOund Scan. It's something that I wish more indie shops got around to doing since it would really go a long way toward helping the sales figures of indie/small label artists.
My point isn't that Morrissey would be charting in the top 40 if the sales for all little indie shops counted, but it would certainly make a difference since people with more...ummmm...let's say less than "mainstream" tastes do tend to frequent these little indie shops in favor of the major corporations.
Anyway, I just thought this might be of some interest to some....
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Weighted Stores and other things (Score:2, Interesting)
I work at a major label and know how many albums we have shipped and can logically decide if the soundscan number is accurate or not. I do agree with blurjose however, that bands who thrive at indie retail have soundscan numbers that are generally much less than what has actually sold. I normally double that number.
Assuming Moz falls into that category: With first week scans of 2,400 (I'm guessing closer to 5,000 actually sold) I'm guessing Greatest Hits shipped around 20k. (These days stores will only bring in around 4 weeks stock on a new release)
I guess in the end, no matter how many copies were actually sold, I think the decision not to include any unreleased material was a mistake. Someone else had posted saying that this CD was simply "meant to exist". True, that is what GH collections are for, but I think an oppurtunity was missed here to do something great. Include one of the new songs that has been recorded. Include a bonus disc with a live concert. Include anything else!
I keep wondering why this was released and I can't think of any good reason. It wasn't released to make anyone money, since it isn't selling. It wasn't released to revitalise interest in Morrissey since there is nothing new here. It wasn't released as a tool to market a new tour around since there are no dates. And it couldn't possibly have been released to be a starting point for new fans since he isn't gaining new fans at a rate to justify it. (Now if he had a sudden minor hit at radio I could see it, "Hmmm... who is this guy Morrissey with that new song *fillinblankhere* I keep hearing on the radio? I'll go to Tower and see what he is all about")
Hm. I guess it all doesn't matter really. I've already given it much to much thought.
Enjoy your day. I'm going to go and enjoy mine.
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"The Best Of Morrissey" vs. Cure's "Greatest Hits" (Score:1)
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Robert Smith makes me sick! (Score:2, Interesting)
Mr. Smith is obviously suffering from a severe case of arrested to development - most people suffer from this in some form or other but in most cases are cured. They grow up, get a life move on!
Morrissey is a good text book case - malajusted at 24 in damp bedsits in Whalley Range, with no friends no socks and no meat on his plate he joined a rock band and has now gone into retirement at the early age of 40 not too far from Rodeo Drive. He's grown up, matured gracefully, lives in Clark Gable's Olde House, speaks Spanish, goes to boxing matches. He's grown up!
Smith is what Americans call a real fucking 'phoney'. Someone who continues to dress the same was as they did in 1979 nad for this alone is deeply suspect. For Smith to pretend that he's still a drunken yoof, with lip stick smudged and bad hair is not an exercise in drunken reminiscence but an acute case of corporate cynicism. By trying to look like his former self in '79 Mr Smith is hoping some old farts/fans will come back to the fold, get a little nostalgic and go out and buy music they threw away 10 years ago (just like the lyrics in Paint A Vulgar Picture - "re-issue, re-package, please the press in Belgium") so he can keep his stock broker happy in 2002.
His conceit is just breathtaking. He tries to look like he sleeps on street corners when in fact he live in large gothic mansion somewhere in Buckinghamshire formerly owned by Dr Quinn Medicine woman herself Jane Se-Se-Se-Se-ymore. You can't get more naff than that!
Him and Geri Halliwell are the phoniest people in the British Music world at the moment!
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BoO! (Score:0)
Faulk*the Cure* (Score:1)
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Byron (Score:1)
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EXTREMELY low chart positions... (Score:1)
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Very best of karmaic action. (Score:0)
I hope they go bankrupt, complete Funhouse sessions and you expect me not to buy them?
Non-cunt anonymous speaking on the cure...... (Score:0)
I never liked the Cure, and I never will.
Apart from Pornography, oh yes, but fat bobby really does stink at songwriting. ho-hum.