Sarah Palin is better than Obama

[Theo]

Example: I saw in the Pigsty that someone posted Palin's statement about the preacher who wanted to burn the Koran.

Palin said:

"People have a constitutional right to burn a Koran if they want to, but doing so is insensitive and an unnecessary provocation - much like building a mosque at Ground Zero."

Obama would probably be doing better in the polls if such simple, reasonable, and obvious statements came out of his mouth as naturally as they come out of Palin's. But they don't, and that's part of the reason Americans don't relate to this President.

Punk rocker Ben Weasel, of The Riverdales and Screeching Weasel fame, blogged:

So. When people get upset because an Imam wants to build a mosque at Ground Zero, the president has nothing at all to say about the appropriateness of it; he merely notes that the Imam has a legal right to build it.

When people get upset because a Christian preacher wants to burn a Quran, the president has nothing to say about the legality of doing so; he only comments on the inappropriateness of it.

Again: huh.

I think the Quran-burning stunt is silly and stupid. But I'm much more concerned that our President not only can't be bothered to defend his fellow citizens' first amendment rights, but that he actually discourages this symbolic (if asinine) speech on the grounds that it will make violent wackos more violent. As if they needed a reason.

I guess this is the sort of thing that's bound to happen when you elect as President the guy with the most liberal voting record in the Senate.

Well said.

 

[CrystalGeezer]

I bet she's better at giving head. Oh come on Theo, you know you've thought about it.

 

[Theo]

I'm trying to discuss the issues here. Get your heads out of the gutter. And btw, Cornelius, that woman in your pic is a poor man's imposter, no doubt hired by some filthy leftist pornographer.

I didn't vote for Sarah Palin last election. I rejected the McCain ticket for a variety of reasons, and voted third party (Libertarian - Bob Barr) in protest. But I found her far more qualified to be VP than I found Obama qualified to be President, and I found her a better and smarter VP candidate than Joe Biden. And I wondered why Palin (bottom of the GOP ticket) was under such intense and deranged attack and scrutiny (with mainstream leftist journalists even trying to claim she wasn't the real mother of her own child!) while Obama (top of the Dem ticket) was barely vetted at all. As it's turning out, Palin now appears more qualified to be President than Barack Obama ever was, as Obama has turned out to be a complete buffoon. But noticing Palin would be a better prez than the idiot we've got now isn't saying much. Virtually anyone would be a better prez than Barack Obama.

 

[Theo]

UPDATE: I just checked, and the woman in Cornelius' post is named Lisa Ann, hired by slimeball Democrat pornographer and misogynist Larry Flynt to portray Sarah Palin. That Morrissey fans are pushing this stuff just goes to show that some Morrissey fans are sexists. But then the entire Democrat attack-machine against Sarah Palin has been intensely sexist from the moment John McCain picked her as his running mate. Apparently sexism is "okay" if it serves the partisan agenda....

 

[goinghome]

... Obama has turned out to be a complete buffoon.

According to Fox news anyway.

Likewise,
"I'm sure Fox News will welcome Christine O'Donnell with open arms if she loses her race for the Senate. And I'm sure her supporters won't care about any of this since she's welcomed Jesus into her heart and all is forgiven and nothing she ever did before matters. That and she's already got that Palin victim card role down pat. They'll just think the evil liberal media is picking on her. This stuff makes me wonder if I should laugh or be terrified that these folks are not being marginalized to the fringes where they belong."

More sane reportage on political power-shiftings at: http://crooksandliars.com/

 

[CrystalGeezer]

It was a joke, Theo.

 

[Uncleskinny]

UPDATE: I just checked, and the woman in Cornelius' post is named Lisa Ann, hired by slimeball Democrat pornographer and misogynist Larry Flynt to portray Sarah Palin. That Morrissey fans are pushing this stuff just goes to show that some Morrissey fans are sexists. But then the entire Democrat attack-machine against Sarah Palin has been intensely sexist from the moment John McCain picked her as his running mate. Apparently sexism is "okay" if it serves the partisan agenda....

You really mean all this, don't you?

 

[CrystalGeezer]

I guess there won't be any discussion of a lil' drizzly on Mama Grizzly in this thread.

 

[Theo]

You really mean all this, don't you?

Of course I really mean it, UncleSkinny. Someone brings up Sarah Palin's statements to compare and contrast with President Obama's, and the instantaneous reaction in the thread is someone posting a sexist attack on Sarah Palin, in order to reduce, objectify, and dismiss her based on her being a woman.

You don't see how that is sexist? Are all sins excused by leftoids in order to defend Barack Hussein Obama? We've seen that before, when leftist partisan feminists threw away all their principles to defend Bill Clinton.

Is it okay to go after Sarah Palin in an intensely sexist manner because the sexist attackers are Democrats?

Yes, I was sincerely calling out Cornelius for his sexist treatment of Sarah Palin. His post was, as a matter of fact, sexist.

Just as Morrissey's comments about the Chinese in the Guardian were racist, but you defend those as well, because you agree with Morrissey's politics. I notice a pattern. Do you view "ists" and "isms" as weapons to use against people you merely disagree with, or do you really care about racism and sexism? You certainly gave Morrissey more of a benefit of the doubt than you gave me, when you falsely accused me of "racism".

If you care about sexism, you are obligated to care about sexist attacks on Sarah Palin, no matter what you think of her politics. Feminism does not mean conformity to left-wing partisan politics, and sexism is not "okay" when used against conservative women.

 

[Theo]

According to Fox news anyway.

No, according to the American people, reacting to the actual performance of this terrible president.

 

[CrystalGeezer]

I used the lowest common form of objectification to sum up Sarah Palin. Degrading her sexuality.

It was obviously humor.

Now if I cast her light in a more manipulative way, say like calling Barack HUSSEIN Obama casually when you know Americans do not reference his middle name but you do to make allusion to an American enemy, now that would be cause for an outburst of snake-ish behavior. It's called "poisoning the well" and it's wrong when expecting to be taken seriously in discourse.

Don't be a meany, Theo. You are among friends.

 

[Theo]

I used the lowest common form of objectification to sum up Sarah Palin. Degrading her sexuality.

It was obviously humor.

I thought your message was something better left to the Pigsty, but that you were just joking around. The follow-up by Cornelius, however, showed me that any mention of Palin would be hit with sexist trolling.

Now if I cast her light in a more manipulative way, say like calling Barack HUSSEIN Obama casually when you know Americans do not reference his middle name but you do to make allusion to an American enemy, now that would be cause for an outburst of snake-ish behavior. It's called "poisoning the well" and it's wrong when expecting to be taken seriously in discourse.

Oh, come on now. We saw that Democrats were flipping out any time anyone called Obama by his full name during the campaign, which made it irresistable to not do so. But the man is in office now. Grow up.

He was sworn in under the name Barack Hussein Obama:

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It's not like I got his name confused with an American enemy like this guy did:

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I'm quite sure that if George Bush's middle name was "Mussolini" or Sarah Palin's middle name was "Hitler" that no one would ever mention that.

Calm down. Barack Hussein Obama got elected with that middle name, and we're allowed to say his middle name. The people who voted for him are turning on him because he's not doing a good job.

When I'm actually trying to diss Obama, I usually go with "Barry Obama". But I went with "Barack Hussein Obama" in one message in this thread because I was dissing Cornelius, and I was talking about people so programmed that they'd even approve of, and engage in, sexism as a tactic to defend their Dear Leader.

Which reminds me of this brainwashing:

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BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA -- MMM, MMM, MMM......

 

[Theo]

It's not like I got his name confused with an American enemy like this guy did:

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[Theo]

Which reminds me of this brainwashing:

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BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA -- MMM, MMM, MMM......

When people take exception to those of us who say "Barack Hussein Obama", well, they just don't get it:

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Perhaps we don't get each other's humor? The Palin attacks I'm seeing just seem sexist to me.

 

[Theo]

Way to defend your sexist post.

I guess Democrat dudes think sexism is "okay" when directed at conservative women?

Putting everything else aside, I mean that as a serious question. Can you give a serious response to it? Or just more Simpsons pics?

Feminism is not about women being forced to conform to Democrat partisanship. Sometimes people get confused about this, and they think that their sexism will go unnoticed because they are deploying that sexism in the service of leftist partisan politics. Such people are not actually serious about feminism. I'm calling Cornelius out to explain himself.

 

[Theo]

Re: taking Theo seriously.....no

That reply says it all about Cornelius.

What say you, UncleSkinny? Do you dismiss my serious point about feminism as well?

 

[Media Whore]

Virtually anyone would be a better prez than Barack Obama.

Anyone? Even Flavor Flav?

And I wouldn't take Cornelius on if I were you. You won't win.

 

[Media Whore]

Which reminds me of this brainwashing:

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BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA -- MMM, MMM, MMM......

But does that brainwashing remind you of this brainwashing?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/flashback-students-sang-b_n_300372.html

 

[Theo]

But does that brainwashing remind you of this brainwashing?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/flashback-students-sang-b_n_300372.html

Well, I ain't clicking on a Huffington Post link, but it's beside the point. Someone called me out in the thread for my use of "Barack Hussein Obama" and I defended it. When I'm called out, I respond.

Here's how I used "Barack Hussein Obama":

"You don't see how that is sexist? Are all sins excused by leftoids in order to defend Barack Hussein Obama? We've seen that before, when leftist partisan feminists threw away all their principles to defend Bill Clinton."

See that? "Are all sins excused by leftoids in order to defend Barack Hussein Obama?" ("Mmm, Mmm, Mmm....") My attack was not against Obama in that sentence, but rather his partisans, and my subsequent posts explained what I meant to the thickos.

Notice how Cornelius cannot defend his sexist post. He takes it for granted that other lefists won't mind his sexism. And it's true - leftists are the majority here, so he has reason to feel safe. Will they call him out, or will they be like UncleSkinny? What kind of feminist is Cornelius?

 

[Media Whore]

Well, I ain't clicking on a Huffington Post link, but it's beside the point. Someone called me out in the thread for my use of "Barack Hussein Obama" and I defended it. When I'm called out, I respond.

Lol, why not? Afraid you'll catch something?

Here's how I used "Barack Hussein Obama":

See that? "Are all sins excused by leftoids in order to defend Barack Hussein Obama?" ("Mmm, Mmm, Mmm....") My attack was not against Obama in that sentence, but rather his partisans, and my subsequent posts explained what I meant to the thickos.

Why do you include the "Mmm, Mmm, Mmm" again?

Notice how Cornelius cannot defend his sexist post. He takes it for granted that other lefists won't mind his sexism. And it's true - leftists are the majority here, so he has reason to feel safe. Will they call him out, or will they be like UncleSkinny? What kind of feminist is Cornelius?

You're right, it is sexist. But you're missing the vital point here. It's not that Cornelius can't defend his post, it's just that he doesn't care enough to. It does seem that he enjoys winding you up. And this is why you won't win. You're the only one who cares about the integrity of the argument.

Left, right, centre, radical anarchist, you're trying to engage the wrong audience.