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on Saturday December 18 2004, @04:00PM
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Where are ye? (Score:1)
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ce soir (Score:1)
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no changes (Score:0)
same set list.
earls (Score:1, Interesting)
Sharron Needles
Re:earls (Score:2, Insightful)
Walking into Earls Court, my heart sank. Smile because I'm in earl's Court, I thought. But who could crack a grin at that enourmous plastic toilet of a venue..? My first real Moz gig (only ever seen him at festivals before - so out my face I can't remember much other than bawling my eyes out atop the shoulders of strangers), and it felt bizarre. In seats, not that we used them, low down, halfway back - i'm sorry if i flailed and squeaked to a degree that annoyed those around me, i realise we were there for slightly different reasons. But the only way i could be there that night was to sit where i did: a group of slightly reluctant friends accompanied me on the condition we didn't get squished to a pulp. Personally, it would have been a heavenly way to be crushed, i felt.
Despite what others of you have said i found the gig strange - felt detached from the action particularly because whenever i allowed myself to become involved, someone near me would bring me back down. The band were strangely out of sync at the start, though it came together later on. A weirdly lethargic version of there is a light didn't stop me shedding a tear, and unlike my friends i thought the encore was ideal, albeit far too brief, like the whole set in fact. But where were the legendary stage invasions i;'ve heard tell of..? the multiple shirt-launching, the 'intense' physical interaction with the crowd..? I didn't really have a problem with the set, excepting it's brevity - went to Reading just for Moz and he played much longer! But the incessant speculation that it was his last gig made me atrophy with horror..."why am i not down there at the front..? I should have just said fuck it and got standing by myself - what have i done - is this it, forever? It can't be.."!
The man himself was still incredible, and clearly emotional (even from where i was standing), for whatever reason - Succinct and oh-so-pointed banter: a bit of politik never goes astray in my book: and the writhing during 'November..' (which i believe i appreciated rather more than my sceptical boyfriend..) - i'm just getting used to his live style, he can't stop now!!
I emerged with a lump in my throat, another in my chest and a distressed/uplifted feeling that i needed to share with someone that vaguely understood, instead of the 2 hour's worth of "why the fuck didn't he play suedehead" i endured on the tube/bus/train/bus/train/bollocks of the homeward journey. (for those of you from elsewhere in the world i can but grovel for my city's wholly shambolic transportation system).
So there you go. Having never posted on one of these forums before, i've suddenly written a rambling and pointless thesis. Nice to meet you anyhow.
PS. yer in Earl's court kid - a bit of Palare wouldn't have gone astray, surely..?
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"this time it's farewell" (Score:2, Interesting)
With a tear in his eye very emotional like, thanked us all for being us and and "please don't forget me" cue 'Last Night....'
rode that barrier for all it was worth, got bruised ribs, touch his hand whilst steely blues connected AND Boz gave me his setlist which read as follows....(just as well as my head is still spinning, so glad I only live 3 streets away)
so here goes...
HSIN
First
Novemeber
Daddys
BigM
I like Y
Redondo
Let me
Subway into Munich
Lite
More Y'Ig
Friday M
Jesus
Crashing Bores
Shoplift
Irish
Y'know
encore......
Last Nite
Was the greatest I have ever seen him, full of quips, twists n'turns, rolling on the ground and truly put every ounce of himself into tonight.
When he bid us "farewell" I choked and by the looks of it, was close himself. When the lights reflected on his beautiful eyes..... well must of been the mustard gas stench from the fragrant many that made him mist up...
If this really is farewell, I will miss you sooooo much but thank you for everything over these years !
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Dictionary definitions (Score:0)
An acknowledgment at parting, especially by saying “goodbye.” An act of parting or leave-taking: many sad goodbyes.
fare·well
Used to express goodbye.
An acknowledgment at parting; a goodbye.
The act of departing or taking leave.
So, they mean exactly the same thing!!!!
Earls Court - Awesome (Score:0)
Set almost the same as Brum but not quite. Here goes: - 1. How soon is now. 2. First of the gang. 3. November spawned a monster. 4. Dont make fun of daddies voice. 5 Bigmouth. 6. I like you. 7. Redondo Beach. 8. Let me kiss you. 9. Subway intro/munich air disaster 1958. 10. there is a light that never goes out. 11 the more you ignore me etc... 12. friday mourning. 13. i have forgiven jesus. 14. the world is full of crashing bores. 15. shoplifters. 16. irish blood... 17. you know i couldnt last. 18. last night i dreamt...
Absolutely awesome much better than birmingham and thats my hometown but sorry the venue there is shite. the crowd were well up for the bequiffed one. Im buzzing but in trouble with the missus whos in the bar thinking ive gone for a slash. Sharon & Chico you missed a really great night.
Three miserable Others! (Score:0)
He he he....
18 songs only (Score:1)
Great! All will make it onto the live-cd!
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Redondo Beach was spectacular. (Score:0)
Does Anyone know? (Score:0)
Anyone up front know what the joker said?
I thought it was hilarious and most impressive. He got over it though.
The band were awful tonight (Score:0)
There is a light was played so badly, that if you shut your eyes you could pretend that it was a local pub band doing a cover version. How soon is now lacked the frightening intensity of the original. Last night I dreamt had a horribly brief intro and seemed off key.
grecian 2000 (Score:0)
that was a great show! (Score:0)
The Smiths songs were absolutely dazzling. Loved Boz's high speed strumming on Bigmouth! The crowd went nuts for First of the Gang and even more bonkers for Irish Blood! Looked around quite a lot. Interesting to seee that relatively few people knew stuff like The More You Ignore Me (sounded amaxing with 3 guitars) and November. Loads of young people singing along to the YRTQ stuff and the Smiths classics. Friday Mourning was really lovely. Beautifully sung. What a great song! But no-one else near me seemed to have a clue about it!
My two main complaints were replacing EILS with Munich (an average b-side): so disappointing when you're expecting Everyday Is Like Sunday after the Subway intro, and dropping the Never Laid (that's the never-played) Symphonies which is easily my favourite song of 2004.
OK, that's all from me!
Cheers.
John
PS Moz's opening words were 'Why do you come here' and then he mentioned smiling when thinking about Earls Court but failed to play the wonderful Piccadilly Palaré the old tease!
pretty damn good (Score:0)
i was next to ms julia riley at the beginning. she looked like a fairly normal young lady. i soon fled the morons who surrounded us.
other than the "fans," the only thing i didn't like was "there is a light," which was sluggish. but morrissey sounded great, and looked very well. porky pig boorer has lost a bit of weight, thank god. deano treated us to his half naked dreaminess. should make a great live cd, if this happens...and would definitely make a better live dvd than the comparitively boring manchester show.
happy christmas.
This was the best Moz-show ever, ever! (Score:0)
The passion.
The dramatic movements
The dramatic gestures.
The wit.
The mime.
The squalor.
Let it not be farewell for good.
Why do I smile when I think about Earls Court (Score:1)
HSIN was spoiled somewhat by all the wankers late back from the bar, but still thrilling. Big Mouth sent chills up my spine that didn't stop still they reached my forehead (I have them again just writing about it) and the band were flawless IMO. Other highlights, Friday Mourning (who knew it would be so good live), Shoplifters, IBEH and of course the encore LNIDSLM was sublime. Moz almost cried, I almost cried, I think we all did (well most of us anyway). When Moz was writhing on the floor during NSAM, I got a flashback of the Kill Uncle tour when he did the same thing, only this time he sounded fantastic and then he sort of screached the whole thing. I'm sorry, but some things do get better with age, no matter what some people on these boards might say.
If this if farewell, I will be very sorry but at least I was there, at least I was part of it. But somehow I believe that it's not. This story may be old, but I reckon it will go on (sorry I couldn't resist).
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Extra bit of banter (Score:0)
I got half of Deano's drumstick!! (Score:1)
It was awesome, natch. He was introduced by the Imperfect List and opened with HSIN as usual, although encored with Last Night I Dreamt... He started off with his priest outfit which was peeled off by the third song and the dog collar thrown into the audience. Highly unimpressed with the security for the event though; for future reference, shouting "Can everyone push forward please?" and letting everyone off running into the arena like wild animals on a hunt, with no discernible organisation and no apparent care for anyone's safety was a BAD idea. But we got to the front and spent the whole gig there!! He was supported by Remma and James Maker and was himself on top form both musically and personally, chatting away and quite relaxed. The audience seemed a lot more subdued than I'd expected though. He reached out to touch the hands of the people in front of him and those who made it over the barrier (and past the security guards bobbing about like penguins needing a piss every time they saw someone move) but being about 7 feet away it wasn't easy, and he mock-strained and -gasped when he did so. He quipped a bit too, not the best ever but still lovely to hear him. Some of them that I remember:
(in response to chants of Mo-rri-ssey): Yes, it's a good name isn't it?
I'm happy to be in Earl's Court. What does that mean? I don't know.
I used to knock about with three miserable guys, but there were some good songs (probably very badly worded)
I don't think the feeling's mutual, but I Have Forgiven Jesus.
We've got rid of Blunkett, now let's get rid of Blair!
I can't always be wrong. (before IBEH)
There is goodbye and there is farewell, and this is farewell.
By the way, dictionary definition people, the dictionary definitions of the two are much the same but the actual meaning is slightly different; goodbye is goodbye and farewell is short for 'fare thee well' which is basically 'look after yourself' - still goodbye but not usually as long term or permanent, for the record. But really don't read too much into these things - he's only teasing, as he does so well.
As usual, the man knows how to put on a show. He seems more comfortable in smaller, intimate venues but he filled Earl's Court well - a good choice of concert to film. Completely exhilarating!! Can't wait for Dublin!!!
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It isn't enough we want more. (Score:0)
Moz was on good form banter-wise and had a good old look at the different sections of the crowd - which was really nice. Greeted us with "why to you come here?" and ended up saying we were a dream audience for an old sea-dog like him - made me chuckle. the encore was really beautiful and i got all choked up seeing him shed a tear. Think the whole audience wanted to give him a big hug.
Crowd (Score:1)
I'm sure there never used to be quite so many knobheads about and there never used to be so many people with digital cameras. Before these would have been on the floor halfway through the first song! Some people were quite aggressive too and not in a good way.
I just hope that this playing arenas will not continue as I would like to think it was the shit venue that resulted in this poor atmosphere and not just that this is what Morrissey's fanbase is like now!
A few nights at Brixton would have been a better idea.
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grabby (Score:0)
Support acts (Score:1)
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Some Earl's Court pics... (Score:1)
I also snatched a few video clips of inbetween song banter - including his "goodbye/farewell". I'll bung a torrent file with these in tomorrow.
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Bulldogs? (Score:1)
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So he never played the "Never Played Symphonies" (Score:0)
He's retiring. I can feel it :( (Score:2, Interesting)
> when you thing about Earls Court?
> but you cry when you think of all
> the battles you've fought (and lost)?
"I'm glad to be here at last in Earls Court. What that means, I don't know."
He finally did it. The sly fox. He's finally played his last English gig.
Since he wrote Piccadille Palare, he has known that he'd finish his English Career in possibly the biggest venue - Earls Court.
He's done everything he needs. He's even landed himself with a cushy job at Attack Records as the talent spotter (what better way to leave the music industry as an artist than to enter it as the recruiter of artists).
I fucking hate to see the day come (especially as I sold my tickets to the last gig on ebay, ffs)... but my friends I think it has.
Next year? 2 CD B-side album including Redondo, Home is a Question Mark, Playing Easy To Get, and Noise is the Best Revenge.
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Earls Court (Score:1)
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Tears (Score:0)
I agree he almost started blubbing at the end. He almost did the same at the end of the Brixton Academy show in 2002. It doesn't mean he's retiring. It means he'll be back in 2006.
Quibble No 1: £18.00 for a fucking ROSARY!!!!
Quibble No 2: No "Symphonies"
Who got the shirt? (Score:1)
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Other songs.... (Score:0)
Thanks!
People watching (Score:1)
As for the show, well, it was everything I had hoped it would be. Moz looked absolutely fantastic and the band were amazing. Certain songs have more affect on me than others - somtimes making me a bit tearful at the joy of hearing them, I was ok last night until "Big Mouth, and then "The more you ignore me"... I lost it a bit with both of those. Anyway, I had a great time and personally, I do not believe we have seen the last of Moz live. The man loves what he does, you can see it and feel it, it would be hard for him to never do it again especially after such a magnificent year, surely.....?
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Morrissey, the pleasure the privalege is mine!!!!! (Score:1)
The crowd was really good but nowhere near as rough as the Manchester MEN gig, he only threw one shirt into the crowd. Morrissey was full of ad libs which will great for the CD release.
Loved Crashing Bores, Last Night I Dreamt, sung with a tear in his eyes, and Redondo Beach is truly a beautiful song.
Just hope its not as final as it all looked at the end of the gig, with him saying "Please Don't Forget Me, I Love You", and "There Is Goodbye And There Is Farewell, This Is Farewell" all tear jerking stuff.
Just got to hope and pray for more of the same soon, there is no other artist anywhere close to how great Morrissey is, the B sides alone from Quarry would make an exceptional album.
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Those small vid files as promised... (Score:1)
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First concert (Score:1)
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Lutewhine's video clips for non-torrent people (Score:2, Informative)
http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=F52CF7A4F8C2BBAA3644D1C9CFDBDE82
Leaving the stage:
http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=5574786831E6102888F4FB47D3FA40DE
I can't be wrong about everything:
http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=5B1252802C3EEB59F1B72F1164DBF728
We've got rid of blunkett:
http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=4D14980FAA772977EBEB7457AB0BF1E6
christmas shoplifting
http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2523BD4ADE2ABAC5F1ED5C150E03C129
I missed both the supports (Score:1)
I think people are reading too much into the whole farewell thing, it was just a casual goodbye!
It was a wonderful night. Really brilliant.
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Fantastic (Score:0)
It was also my girlfriend's first ever gig.
Both of us left totally mesmerised by the performance. I guess it depends where you were in the arena, but I thought the crowd response was so much better than the NIA on Tuesday.
Frankly, I was surprised to look around the arena after a couple of songs, and see that it was almost completely full (I think the timing of Morrissey's arrival caught some of the 9.20 club by surprise).
The set was great - even Redondo Beach - which I thought seemed out of place, sounded quite good. Moz whipped the mic lead like I haven't seen in some time, without letting his vocals go astray. Boz and Deano in particular were giving it everything..
I sincerely hope this isn't Morrissey's last show on these shores. His final remark about Goodbye/Farewell doesn't exactly calm the fears that he is about to retire, but at the same time there are plenty of things to suggest that he is just stringing us along. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens over the next 2 years... Until then, thanks Morrissey for some magnificent songs and some incredible nights last last night. We won't forget you.
Sorrow of Stamford Bridge
(oh, one gripe at the venue - for fuck's sake, introduce some queue lines at the bar!)
let-down (Score:0)
i mean what was played was good (there is a light was way too slow tho), but it only lasted about one hour 20 minutes, and was the same setlist as the previous shows on this jaunt. When this show was announced it was announced as a special one-off pre-xmas gig, but it was standard. And expensive. With the ticketweb charges it cost £37, and there was no decent support (PJ Harvey on the first couple of shows-it costs £25 to see one of her own gigs!). Moz seemed to enjoy it but there was more than a hint of going through the motions.
Earl's Court (Score:0)
However, all in all, fantastic night! Special thanks to Deano for spotting us during the second band and waving (TWICE!) - made me grin like a teenager. My night was made by The More You Ignore Me... simply because it's one my little 4 year old and I sing on the way to/from nursery and he always asks "mummy is this Morrissey" and it made me think of him.
Yet again the great man was in gracious, witty, whimsical mood and provided us with a fine performance (despite the sound being decidedly dodgy all night). The band looked like they thoroughly enjoyed it too.
Thanks Morrissey x
Moz makes it 4 in a row! (Score:2, Informative)
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Morrissey's final show? (Score:0)
It was a great show with an excellent setlist, and a few nice quotes, but a few he'd used before. Morrissey? "It's a beautiful name, but just think where it's been..."
"We've got a charity single out this christmas, the charity is me.."
"Bores.... is our christmas single.. in Idaho!"
The show was obviously quite moving for him - he looked more emotional than I've seen him during "Last Night I Dreamt" after he'd announced "when you say goodbye there's goobye and there's farewell.. this is farewell."
Probably because of his impending retirement from live shows, he seemed almost preoccupied, and not as vibrant as he'd been earlier this Summer, or perhaps it was just because it was Christmas.
I would have preferred to have seen a few more surprises in the setlist, stuff that's never been played solo, but overall it was excellent. Excluding "Everyday" and playing "Munich" was puzzling, but "Friday Mourning" was a surprise highlight - very epic and quite soaring melodically, it was performed with a certain gravitas with Moz in a black shirt. Also great were a storming IBEH, a great opening one-two with How Soon Is Now and First of the Gang, and Redondo Beach was surprisingly good and Last Night I Dreamt was sublime.
I felt very sad to think I'll never see Moz again, but at least I got to see his final show and made it to the second row, near to Julia, my sweetheart.
Also spotted freeyourself in the crowd - his was the only builder's bum on display. Had no idea he's 4'7" tall either, but I suppose the fact he's taken to spending his afternoons and evenings registering names on the message board so he can deleate messages he doesn't like should have served as a red flag that he had issues. Hope things improve for you.
Overall, a splendid night and an excellent show, but a terribly sad occasion too - let's hope he releases another album or two even if he doesn't get on stage and tour.
Thank you for another beautiful night Morrissey - and I hope the future brings peace and possibly happiness for you.
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Earls Court (Score:0)
The ticket price for a 1 hour 20 mins concert was a disgrace - even the most cock-sure major music stars have a decent support act. was it because the gig had already sold out that there was no attempt to add decent support? If so, isn't that treating the die-hard London fans rather poorly?
The audience was flat - limited singing and little celebration other than making noise during old Smiths songs and IBEH.
The set list was rather poor - some b-sides that compared with his early b-sides could be said to be average. Friday Mourning and Munich were a waste of concert time - expecially when the concert was so short. There were several lulls and he lost an audience that was hoping for more. Redondo beach sounded poor and was flat.
I've been a fan of his for 18 years - it worrys me that the blind love of his music can affect people musical judgements. It also confirms to me that London crowds are nowhere near as celebratory as Manchester ones.
Outside (Score:1)
I really loved it but can't find who sang mainly due to the fact that I only remeber the lyric - 'outside'
Can anyone help
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james maker, morrissey's little "yes man" (Score:0)
To make matters worse, he was whizzing around like a little spinning top to tunes with absolutely no rhythm at all, and virtually no melody. At times, I wondered if he was singing or shouting, and the guitar riffs were even worse. The guitars sounded like Oasis trying to do Jimmy Page, while high on coke. I couldn't actually believe what i was watching.
Even after numerous half-pits of beer, nothing improved. "Born that way" only re-emphasised how little Maker has to offer aside from a mildly rousing desire to shout how pissed off he is about something slightly gay. I think.
At first, I remarked to my friend that Bobmozza must have got a deal - it looked exactly like bob, only 5 or 6 years older and slightly more bulky. Apologies bob, having witnessed this diabolic display of rockabilly posturing, tuneless wailing and incongruous compliments "you were sensational" to a crowd who were whistling, or nodding off could only serve as an insult to you bob.
What else can I say? Oh I almost forgot - he even introduced his band like Moz does, saying things like "fresh from pentonville prison... " before telling us who the drummer was. Like we cared. Hhe introduced them all and probably thought we all knew who he - big star he is - was but by the end of the gig most people had no idea he was james Maker, and ironically were more familiar with his drummer.
Remma were ok, and had 1 nice song spoiled by some awful drumming (the next single) and a couple of semi-passable efforts. Like every other Moz support act really.
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He's still got it! (Score:1)
Two great nights, thank you Morrissey!
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Thank You from the Heart of my Bottom (Score:1)
As for Moz, the signals he sent out about forthcoming retirement were obvious to me.The comments about farewell,the look in his eys during 'Last Night'-as if he knew this was his last live appearance on home soil- I was emotional with him.I thought he was going to give in to his emotions for a brief moment, yet held on.Leaving the Court, to the echoes of 'My Way' oh well, enough said...
Sad to say-how still we are in love with you...
I don't believe Moz could ever formally retire because of the rare effect he has on people.There really would be a few jumping in front of ten-ton trucks...hence he has probably been advised not to announce it.
So, 2005 will probably bring a new unpromoted album,live dvds and most exciting of all in my view, the autobiography that many will read and receive no surprise from...still, hopefully a book-tour?
Then...a place in the sun...
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Wankers (Score:0)
Pre-gig music (Score:1)
The party in West Kensington was absolutely blinding! Thank you guys.
Cheers!
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first morrissey gig and I loved it (Score:0)
oh and I'd like to say thankyou to the girl who was with her friend Emma from North Yorkshire, for keeping me entertained during James Maker so I didn't top myself.
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