I'd take these random, slightly cryptic social media snippets with a pinch of salt.
The rumour mill elsewhere has already turned a comment from a band member leaving France in to 'the album's ready' - which in all probability isn't.
Some of the people asserting things based on the smallest bits of info appear to do so for how it makes them look on Facebook et al than any desire to truly inform people.
I'd also add that, often, when they communicate with band members or announce things said on private accounts to the world that things don't turn out like they report.
The whole Moz world is built on foundations of saying little and letting people fill in the gaps. The band join in on it. There's no real reason a band member couldn't say: just finished recording an album, it's being mixed and will be released on... Instead, we get fly by night social media posts and vague comments that often disappear. Not exactly the best thing to base definitive assertions on maybe!?
We live in hope.
Regards,
FWD.
Unfortunately, there is utterly zero effort being made in the 'maximum impact' department around anything he's attached to particularly.Understand your stance but I don't blame them. Morrissey and the record company want maximum impact for the announcement of the new album. Would be a bit rubbish if the bass player just confirmed it all inadvertently. I actually quite like getting these tweets/instagrams from producer/guitarists etc. as it means that an album has pretty much definitely been recorded, and should have a fairly imminent release.
We are talking about Morrissey here - who used to preview new album material live - sometimes years prior to its release.
He's never really engaged with the model in the way it is described above.
Quarry, Ringleader, Refusal, WPINOYB were all known quantities for release date with many of the tracks being performed prior - I highly doubt he will adopt a different pattern that fits in with any 'attention cycles' - other than his own of course.
Regards,
FWD.
"so, when he performs an unreleased song, is when we will know there is actually a new album in the offing?"
Erh... No, that's how it was in the past - that can give an indication as to the future, but doesn't become a definitive rule - well, certainly not asserted by myself anyway.
There is, however, little evidence to suggest he will ever engage with the music industry in the way asserted previously. The hit and miss nature of his online 'marketing' in the last few years is totally at odds with his younger self's attention to detail and current trendy 'popularity algorithm' manipulation - which is a shame as it is totally possible for him to embrace and reap the rewards - he's the biggest stumbling block with regards to this, not the industry.
Of course there is an album, but cloak & dagger nonsense is not ever going to help it. The t-shirt debacle, the live gigs vanishing from high profile apps, TTY/Official FB messing about, withdrawn live dates from box offices, making controversial pronouncements on a marketing FB page, Sam's ego and subsequent dramas, Italy, sneaking off to France et al..... most of this spread via unofficial sources and has only been spun negatively - the 'new' manager isn't really that good at marketing or damage limitation then are they!? Plus they are using old mechanisms to 'accidentally' leak things - again, that isn't helpful to the brand.
Given he records with someone who successfully markets their own albums and without the need for gossip to generate practically any interest plus a wealth of modern ways to create interest in something that require little effort - it's a shame it will probably 'happen' in such a clouded way.
Regards,
FWD.
There is no 'impatience' on my part - I can't see where you get that from - I've waited literally years for things - having a view on gossip and misinformation does not really relate to my perceived patience.How has it been spun negatively. There's plenty of examples of people getting excited by seeing a possible new title. In the tweet above about Jesse posting all seems pretty positive about the possibility of a new one. I also don't know who's to blame for the posting of shows on whatever app. I dont think you do either so why the assumption that apps being handled horribly by morrisseys camp. Ive seen live dates of other artists get announced and pulled because they were premature. Seems like something that happens now and then. To me it looks like you're just being impatient and want info now. If a release date is farther away the release of a bunch of info now doesn't help it. Releasing an album at certain times does have an effect of sales and charting and even if morrissey doesn't care the label might and has a say. The tweets about recording being on the posts of the band in Rome from boz the pic from joe have all seemed to generate postitive reactions and plenty of discussion
There is no 'impatience' on my part - I can't see where you get that from - I've waited literally years for things - having a view on gossip and misinformation does not really relate to my perceived patience.
The removed gigs have directly exacerbated people's anxiety about him turning up if they book hotels etc - that has harmed the brand negatively. The 'will he won't he' thinking can't ever really generate a positive view.
When Morrissey uses his 'official' page to post comments as his words - it is reasonable to assume that his 'camp' & he are in some form of communication. Many legitimate companies have removed information at exactly the time the information appears on this site - somebody is giving this information to Spotify, Live Nation, venues etc and somebody is then getting them to retract it - if Morrissey was completely distanced from the FB page - it wouldn't be an issue, but the annoyance expressed just in this forum at fumbled live announcements is directly attributed to his actions which is, again, negative. The nonsense in Italy has overshadowed the real reason for them being there. Did you have your eyes closed during all the negative comments in the media about the furore - with little mention of a new album?
A new manager should be on top of all of this - there have been many excellent suggestions here over the years as to best ways to successfully market his work - the last year has probably been the best example of how not to.
I'm off - I'm impatient for my dinner.
Regards,
FWD.