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Feddie just sat on her own face.
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Feddie just sat on her own face.
You do realize by agreeing with Theo's underhanded arguments about Peta and Jon Stewart and the raging left that you are also subscribing to his theory that Morrissey is in someway a hippocrite and animal abuser himself?
No, I did not realize that by pointing out your post was immature, that suddenly I subscribed to Theo's madcap conspiracies theories. Despite the obvious disdain that people have for Theo on this site, I am not going to discredit what he posted here. In fact, the responses expose the type of hypocrisy rarely appraised here. Your judgment of Theo and his argument is rather simplistic and the previous post that you made (the one I commented on) highlighted the very same 'fallacious' tactics that you accused him of. This highlights the hypocrisy of the political 'left'. Morrissey, who is deeply passionate about animal rights, is somewhat dogmatic about his convictions, to the point where he practically denounced Roxy Music, because Bryan Ferry supported hunting. Similarly, David Cameron despite being a vocal fan of the Smiths, also faced similar ridicule from Marr and from Morrissey. I suspect that it is because of they're affiliation with conservative or right-wing politics, that allowed Morrissey to denounce the two (specifically Bryan Ferry) with such fervor. Jon Stewart and his Daily Show affiliates unwittingly abused a camel, for laughs and I hear no scathing denunciation from Morrissey yet, nor from PETA, because as far as they are concerned, Jon Stewart and the gang are their kind of people. I guess Morrissey can excuse the abuse of an animal for someone he likes. It's very possible he wasn't aware of this. But PETA is not excused for this I'm afraid. I believe Theo is simply highlighting this type of hypocrisy, through posing a question meant to produce provocation and discourse. This time, Theo got it right.
Nothing wrong with that I suppose. I just would of preferred it if you countered his statements with something more substantive. I am not particularly as emotional about animal rights as other Morrissey fans, but I can't stand abuse of any kind really. I don't think Theo is hell-bent on discrediting Morrissey, I think that's beyond the point. How I see it, is that he's is pointing out examples where PETA and fellow animal rights activists can be hypocritical. In fact it's quite blatant how hypocritical they can be.What is logically fallacious about asking someone to shut up? It's a request.
I am not trying to criticize you in anyway, but if it is not about right or left political agendas why did you mention Rush Limbaugh? Why did you mention Palin or Republicans for that matter? And this issue of 'logic' shouldn't be applied to forum posts on Morrissey solo. Not anymore at least. I meant 'fallacious' to be a bit more of a metaphor and less of an accusation. Sorry for any misunderstanding.This is not a particularly left or right agenda to which you speak, it is just bad logic.
Did I mention Palin or Republicans?Nothing wrong with that I suppose. I just would of preferred it if you countered his statements with something more substantive. I am not particularly as emotional about animal rights as other Morrissey fans, but I can't stand abuse of any kind really. I don't think Theo is hell-bent on discrediting Morrissey, I think that's beyond the point. How I see it, is that he's is pointing out examples where PETA and fellow animal rights activists can be hypocritical. In fact it's quite blatant how hypocritical they can be.
I am not trying to criticize you in anyway, but if it is not about right or left political agendas why did you mention Rush Limbaugh? Why did you mention Palin or Republicans for that matter? And this issue of 'logic' shouldn't be applied to forum posts on Morrissey solo. Not anymore at least. I meant 'fallacious' to be a bit more of a metaphor and less of an accusation. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
I was asking for Morrissey and the SoLow community to join me in condemning it, that's all.
28 years later, a forum ostensibly devoted to the man who produced said lyrics features a two-page thread of invective occasioned by a camel being mildly inconvenienced by an american talk-show host, started by a right-wing political obsessive who doesn't mind talking to himself when nobody else will listen, as is frequently the case.
Truly nauseating. The linked piece in the Isthmus says it "ends happily" because the animal is eventually able to stand up again. Ithmus is a newspaper of sorts. Let's see if — instead of smiling on camera and calling it a happy ending — the reporter finds out where the TV crew got the camel, who thought it was acceptable to bring a camel out in the ice and snow, who decided to put a collapsible metal fence around the animal, what training the handlers had, why the owners of the camel entrusted its welfare to these people, and what ultimately happened to the animal?
I kind of hate driving traffic to the Isthmus (and to the same reporter who wrote an article trashing me as an egotist because I declined to give him an interview), because it seems to be treating this as a kooky, quirky YouTube moment. It's not. It's animal cruelty.
I'd like an investigation. Should someone be prosecuted?
considering that Theo is kinda possessed with portraying Morrissey as a hypocrite, starting threads about him eating at the Cat & Fiddle even though they serve meat and others I can't remember,
I can't f#cking stand Jon stewart. Morrissey is lowering himself when he associates himself with nobodies like Stewart and Russell Brand etc.
I don't like Jon Stewart either. Brand is a bit excusable because he is a fan of Morrissey's, but still a bore in my book. Morrissey can associate with whom every he chooses, I just wish he was a bit more consistent with his 'independent' image he has forged for himself.I can't f#cking stand Jon stewart. Morrissey is lowering himself when he associates himself with nobodies like Stewart and Russell Brand etc.