Judge John Weeks dead (April 2021)


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His Honour John Weeks QC​

It is with much regret that we report that Master Weeks (His Honour John Weeks QC) sadly died on the Easter weekend, aged 82. The Inn’s flag will fly at half-mast on Monday 19 April 2021, in his memory.

Master Weeks was called to the Bar in 1963 and took Silk in 1983. In 1991 he was appointed a circuit judge on the Western Circuit and as a Chancery Circuit judge in 1997 until his retirement in 2006.

He was elected a Judicial Governing Bencher in 1996.

Details of any funeral and/or memorial service will be circulated as appropriate in due course.
 
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Vegan Cro Spirit .777

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Stephen Street wrote the post-Smiths DH Andy bass lines,
basically confirming that Moz wrote the Smiths era bass lines:hammer:
:handpointdown:


"Well after ‘Suedehead’ and ‘Everyday Is Like Sunday’ had done so well in the charts, ironically they were bigger hits than The Smiths had had for quite a few years, he was more compelled to think about doing some live work and for that purpose getting Andy (Rourke) and Mike (Joyce) involved again, and of course Craig Gannon – he asked me whether I would have a major problem with that and I said ‘No’. The songs I gave them to work on, ‘Interesting Drug’ and ‘…International Playboys’ you know, they were my bass lines and such. I mean, Andy did his own version of it, but they were my bass lines."
 

Carlisle baz

Cock of the north
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magento is googling for stuff everybody is already
reading in this threaddoh:
peeps look and learn what getting liquored up on daily
basis can do to the brain cells:hammer:
Says the dude with 18 fingers...
3 hogs and 2 shovels to shovel shit all day...
Quit hitting on young Canadian ladies ...
She’ll be the death of ya.....
Stick to your animal porn with Grandmaw.....
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Stephen Street wrote the post-Smiths DH Andy bass lines,
basically confirming that Moz wrote the Smiths era bass lines:hammer:
:handpointdown:


"Well after ‘Suedehead’ and ‘Everyday Is Like Sunday’ had done so well in the charts, ironically they were bigger hits than The Smiths had had for quite a few years, he was more compelled to think about doing some live work and for that purpose getting Andy (Rourke) and Mike (Joyce) involved again, and of course Craig Gannon – he asked me whether I would have a major problem with that and I said ‘No’. The songs I gave them to work on, ‘Interesting Drug’ and ‘…International Playboys’ you know, they were my bass lines and such. I mean, Andy did his own version of it, but they were my bass lines."
Good find! It was probably Johnny Marr and/or Morrissey who wrote the bass lines in The Smiths.
 
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Vegan Cro Spirit .777

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Who is Magento?

Morrissey is a father figure to quite a few. I have my Christian faith I believe in Father God Almighty and Lord Jesus. My Christian faith and Morrissey are what get me through these dark times. Things feel darker with each day we are in a spiritual battle and I have had a lot of rejection I feel broken at times. The whole court case thing makes me feel sick. I still can't believe Morrissey didn't win. I can't imagine going through a court case like that.

magento, the old coot who is liquored up all the time. has a few lagers
and starts making drunk rants. wears a magenta and maroon suit
when getting liquor outdoors.:straightface:
indoors hangs the laundry to dry in 'the living room'🤒
his abominable fake fam booked towards coventry after
making the poor horses suffer at the races:hammer:
 

Famous when dead

Vulgarian
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Good find! It was probably Johnny Marr and/or Morrissey who wrote the bass lines in The Smiths.
Perhaps you should take it up with Marr Andrea?
Again:
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lynnda

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But when the band started out, all 4 of them were unknown - at the Hacienda in Feb 1983 it was just "The Smiths". It wasn't Moz and Marr and 2 others.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing to say 15 years later blah blah blah
But Mike and Andy did all the leg work to help Morrissey and Marr get to where they got to. Yes it could have been 2 other musicians but whoever it was would have done all the travelling up and down the country in the back of a Transit van playing to 40 people in a student hall in Northampton (or wherever).
That was my point. At the time of the trial, there was empirical evidence that Morrissey and Marr were ultimately the driving force of the band's success. That was the decision the court was meant to make: were Rourke and Joyce as valuable to the Smiths as m and m? They were not; in fact, most people who are not obsessed with the Smiths probably would not recognize their names. Again, I'm not in any way diminishing their talents, just saying that at the time of the court case, it was clear that Moz and Marr were the reason the band had been so successful.

Doesn't really matter now, and as you stated, the greatest failure was not having good management, who would have seen to proper contracts and also being too young and not knowing the business. It's just a shame that they all couldn't have found an amicable way to settle. Who knows if things would be different today.

lynnda
 

Ketamine Sun

HANG THEM HIGH VERONICA
See your post #182 above. You concluded your sentence "I’m not really sure if what comes up automatically in a post when you reply to someone else is called quoting someone, or if there’s another name for that" by saying "I could be wrong".

This to me implied that it was your view that there was indeed "another name for that" since you obviously felt that the correct name wasn't "quote" since you had challenged my use of the term. However, if I'm wrong, and you simply like to append random non-sequiturs to the ends of your sentences, then so be it.

I wonder what it’s called then.
 

Ketamine Sun

HANG THEM HIGH VERONICA
I don't know whose argument you're trying to support here. That's precisely my point. They sparked and riffed off each other, and both had a hand in the finished music of The Smiths. for which Rourke quite evidently deserves a credit on so many of their tracks.

Oh yes definitely deserves credit, more than he gets, sure.
 

Ketamine Sun

HANG THEM HIGH VERONICA
I read an interview where Johnny Marr said he wrote the basslines in The Smiths. Johnny Marr had to really push Andy Rourke in the recording studio as well and keep him on track. Later Andy Rourke became a heroin addict and that was stressful for Johnny Marr having to look after Andy Rourke when he was in the grips of addiction. Johnny Marr became friends with Andy Rourke when they were at school. Andy Rourke is very fortunate to have a friend like Johnny Marr.

Don’t know ‘bout that. I’d have to see the interview.
 
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Anominous

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Perhaps you should take it up with Marr Andrea?
Again:
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We know from Dale Hibbert, answering questions on this very site, that Johnny wrote the early baselines, including The Hand That Rocked, Handsome Devil and Suffer Little Children. Of course, Andy was not around at that point.

A guitarist and bassist who perfectly understood each other musically was on of the Smiths' strengths.
 
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Vegan Cro Spirit .777

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Le:frogface: just being PC FFS, in reality he cheered him so much he fired him, later DH cheered Le:frogface: on by suing him.:hammer:
 

Geoffrey Ingram

Active Member
We know from Dale Hibbert, answering questions on this very site, that Johnny wrote the early baselines, including The Hand That Rocked, Handsome Devil and Suffer Little Children. Of course, Andy was not around at that point.

A guitarist and bassist who perfectly understood each other musically was on of the Smiths' strengths.
I think that was because Johnny found Dale somewhat struggling
 

Famous when dead

Vulgarian
Moderator
We know from Dale Hibbert, answering questions on this very site, that Johnny wrote the early baselines, including The Hand That Rocked, Handsome Devil and Suffer Little Children. Of course, Andy was not around at that point.

A guitarist and bassist who perfectly understood each other musically was on of the Smiths' strengths.
And we know the person stating:
'It was probably Johnny Marr and/or Morrissey who wrote the bass lines in The Smiths' was guessing incorrectly given Marr's account of Andy's work - the actual reason I posted it. Some people's perpetual questioning is part of their shtick and not doing a simple Google or archive search probably belies other agendas.
FWD.
 
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Vegan Cro Spirit .777

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Le :frogface: changed his tune since previously no 100%:handpointdown:


"Andy and I were close personally so that probably came out in the music.We would do stuff instinctively and sometimes work basslines out in the control room.He was always a really good musician and he played the cello on "Shakespears Sister".Morrissey and I would have the songs written before they were recorded and we would get a good take down and then do the vocals.I would then get into overdubbing and layering the guitars and some other instruments,strings,sounds etc."
:hammer:
 
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Morrissey1959-2021

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He’ll soon be joined by Morrissey post the Moz Vegas final shows of his life.
 
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Anominous

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And we know the person stating:
'It was probably Johnny Marr and/or Morrissey who wrote the bass lines in The Smiths' was guessing incorrectly given Marr's account of Andy's work - the actual reason I posted it. Some people's perpetual questioning is part of their shtick and not doing a simple Google or archive search probably belies other agendas.
FWD.
Yessir, I wasn't suggesting for a moment that Andy contributed no baselines to the Smiths. My understanding is that it was standard for Andy to come up with his own parts, at least after the first album.
 
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Lujissey. Amo a Patry!

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It is simple for justice they won J and R but for people in general, that is to say the public ,they won MOz Marr
 
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