What really is the point of that?
Could you repeat that in English please?
skinny why are you such a whuss that you cant take it when i write how i like to. i dont read your posts, i dont wanna talk to you as ive said many times before so why persist in trying to talk to me when ive reasonably asked you not to. i dont wanna have a stupid immature argument with you on a subject i dont care about. please respect this request and lets not talk to one another and just leave the space for people who want to say something meaningful
Jamie never claimed Morrissey didn't have an audience, he claimed a majority of the audience Morrissey does have is an older, faithful fanbase that has been following him from The Smiths days and who likely enjoy music from that era more than Morrissey's new songs. This definitely seems to be the case in my experience; I'm 24, but the majority of Morrissey fans I've encountered are middle-aged, including the people I typically see at Morrissey shows. At any rate, Jamie's point isn't contradicted by a well-selling arena show. And let's not forget that Blondie shared the bill at MSG, another veteran band with a strong, loyal fanbase, which likely also helped sell tickets.
Furthermore, I'm not sure that having a good time at a concert is really indicative of the attendee's overall opinion of the performer. I've certainly had a good time at every Morrissey show I've attended, including shows on the WPINOYB tour, but I agree wholeheartedly with Jamie's sentiments and I know plenty of other fans who love seeing Morrissey live also feel the same way.
The audience at Hammersmith last year seemed to be a mix of young and middle aged
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krZWYkelUiI&list=RDkrZWYkelUiI#t=523
Yes but this isn't sleeve art is it?
What exactly is the point of comparing this to smiths/moz sleeves? You may as well eat duck a l'orange and a piece of toast and discuss the differences.
Btw I love toast! I won't have a bad word said about it
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ffs, only if consider 40 year olds 'young' are there any young people at moz concerts. its overwhelmingly middle aged with a sprinkling of younger vegans. all chubby.
thats the great mystery. everybody is vegan but chubby, moz, band and audience. since they are already vegans i dont think dieting is an option.
Are you one of those morons that think you can only get fat off animal products?ffs, only if consider 40 year olds 'young' are there any young people at moz concerts. its overwhelmingly middle aged with a sprinkling of younger vegans. all chubby.
thats the great mystery. everybody is vegan but chubby, moz, band and audience. since they are already vegans i dont think dieting is an option.
I might have missed something, but last time I heard him say something on the subject, Morrissey said (to the question of whether he was a vegetarian or a vegan) that he didn't eat animals. That is not a vegan. Having said that, vegans can get fat too, it depends on many things. And in the case of Morrissey, he's always had a lousy diet. For all we know, he might still be living on chips and chocolate. Marr is a vegan.
At the show I saw last year, there was rapturous response to the Smiths and early solo songs and much more muted reactions to the new songs. This is consistent with many write-ups seen elsewhere on this site. Whatever is left of his career is coasting on this "endless tour" to the die-hards. Sure, there are younger fans there - there always were - but you can't deny that the attendance numbers tilt heavily towards "seasoned" fans.
Similarly, his core audience bought World Peace in sufficient droves to push it to number two - but it was quickly nosediving from the face of the earth even before ties were severed with Harvest. Clearly, they had an interest early on in pushing the album in ways that Morrissey didn't - so he cost himself any opportunity to expand his audience. He cost himself the opportunity to reach another new audience - fiction readers - by releasing a sparsely edited book that was received with a colossal thud in the popular press. The silly machinations to push the re-release of "I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris" were received with the contempt they deserved - and were yet another spit in the face to the people he so desperately wishes to cling to, the music industry.
So, yes, his reputation is in tatters in the areas that matter most in advancing his art. What's worse is that a goodly number of his faithful are growing ever more tired of the bullshit offstage, not least of which is standing approvingly aside while this idle twit married to the Johnny Cash fortune releases "art" bemoaning his uncle's (largely self-inflicted) ostracism from mainstream success.
It is designed to promote Morrissey to the world, though. If you look at those Smiths covers now, they are still beautiful. It's a shame he didn't carry that style through to his solo work, because after Suedehead and Sunday the quality was very uneven. Where he did go back to Smiths like art we got what I think is the rather lovely Southpaw Grammar cover.
I remember reading about Morrissey going ballistic when he saw the dreadful cover to a Smiths Australian 12" mixes release, so there was a time when those things were clearly almost as important to him as the music contained within.
I like toast, too. I let it go cold then spread it with as much butter I can get away with without being detected. Proof there is a God.