Poppy Full
Sycophantic slag
I second this.
I second this.
dizzywhore_1804
A big-nose who knows...
Gorgeous - this along with the 'Strings Remaster' of Dear God Please Help Me really add to the lush ROTT sound.
My ROTT-II is becoming one of my favourite compilations
My ROTT-II is becoming one of my favourite compilations
glassmusic
Sock Puppet
Oh, so Mikey ruined this song. I was wondering why the released version was such an atrocity.
Never was a fan of Mikey's. I bumped into him while working at the Guitar Center in Hollywood, and he was a super douche. Nose in the air, he stepped up to the counter and within five minutes looked annoyed at the salesperson and said "Well, *I'm* the keyboardist for Morrissey, so I don't pay the same prices as everyone else", or something along those lines. I remember his tone of arrogance and entitlement more than anything. I was working Operations and was running around, so I only heard little snippets of the conversation. But he was clearly being a jerk to the sales force. And don't bother defending him by saying it was probably the sales person, because the guy he was talking to was the nicest guy in the world, who was really good with people. Usually, however, you'd be right; the sales team at any GC is normally full of morally demoted used car salesmen.
By contrast I've met Gary, who was extremely polite and warm, and I've met Boz on two occasions; both times he was incredibly friendly, and even remembered me the second time (he remembered more about our previous conversation that I did, even though a year had passed).
To get back on topic (sorry about that) THANK YOU for this version. I actually really enjoy this song now, and can see the beauty in it, instead of seeing it as some experiment with loops gone wrong.
Never was a fan of Mikey's. I bumped into him while working at the Guitar Center in Hollywood, and he was a super douche. Nose in the air, he stepped up to the counter and within five minutes looked annoyed at the salesperson and said "Well, *I'm* the keyboardist for Morrissey, so I don't pay the same prices as everyone else", or something along those lines. I remember his tone of arrogance and entitlement more than anything. I was working Operations and was running around, so I only heard little snippets of the conversation. But he was clearly being a jerk to the sales force. And don't bother defending him by saying it was probably the sales person, because the guy he was talking to was the nicest guy in the world, who was really good with people. Usually, however, you'd be right; the sales team at any GC is normally full of morally demoted used car salesmen.
By contrast I've met Gary, who was extremely polite and warm, and I've met Boz on two occasions; both times he was incredibly friendly, and even remembered me the second time (he remembered more about our previous conversation that I did, even though a year had passed).
To get back on topic (sorry about that) THANK YOU for this version. I actually really enjoy this song now, and can see the beauty in it, instead of seeing it as some experiment with loops gone wrong.
Raphael Lambach
Well-Known Member
Alt version is better than the currently.
ray_afraid
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Oh, so Mikey ruined this song. I was wondering why the released version was such an atrocity.
Never was a fan of Mikey's. I bumped into him while working at the Guitar Center in Hollywood, and he was a super douche. Nose in the air, he stepped up to the counter and within five minutes looked annoyed at the salesperson and said "Well, *I'm* the keyboardist for Morrissey, so I don't pay the same prices as everyone else", or something along those lines. I remember his tone of arrogance and entitlement more than anything. I was working Operations and was running around, so I only heard little snippets of the conversation. But he was clearly being a jerk to the sales force. And don't bother defending him by saying it was probably the sales person, because the guy he was talking to was the nicest guy in the world, who was really good with people. Usually, however, you'd be right; the sales team at any GC is normally full of morally demoted used car salesmen.
By contrast I've met Gary, who was extremely polite and warm, and I've met Boz on two occasions; both times he was incredibly friendly, and even remembered me the second time (he remembered more about our previous conversation that I did, even though a year had passed).
To get back on topic (sorry about that) THANK YOU for this version. I actually really enjoy this song now, and can see the beauty in it, instead of seeing it as some experiment with loops gone wrong.
If you are saying what I think you are saying, that you like this new version better than the released version, then you have Mikey to thank for saving this song. This is his version.
And thanks much to all who've made it available!
wow. thanks for this. after reading the initial reviews for Sweetie Pie, i dreaded it as "the worst b-side of his career"( a radio signal picking up two different stations was my initial impression) so i ended up liking it a great deal more than most. But this version is far superior.
ummagumma
New Member
Without the conversion (96k---->128k)
MP3, 96k.
http://www.zizfile.com/file/4479/Morrissey---Sweetie-Pie--Alternate-Version--mp3.html
MP3, 96k.
http://www.zizfile.com/file/4479/Morrissey---Sweetie-Pie--Alternate-Version--mp3.html
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Fall On Proverb
Life is never kind.
It's uncanny how much I prefer this version. Thank you.
Scarlet Ibis
The Chicken of D.C.
I like both versions! Thank you.
I think he has a little trouble with the high notes. His voice ceases to be fantastic when really high, imo. It gets thin and changes from dark blue to a brittle light blue.
I think he has a little trouble with the high notes. His voice ceases to be fantastic when really high, imo. It gets thin and changes from dark blue to a brittle light blue.
Wrong. Tony Visconti himself pointed out that the released version was nothing like the original because Morrissey had been in and played around with the song, in much the same way as Golden Lights. The tinkering was nothing to do with Mikey.
Peter
threllyp
Member
My ROTT-II is becoming one of my favourite compilations
What other ROTT edits do you have? I know of the 'Dear God...' edit and now this one, but are there any more?
Anaesthesine
Angel of Distemper
Thanks. Much, much better, despite the wobbly vocals.
I never liked the original - it sounded exactly like what it was: a beautiful vocal melody ripped from a decent backing track. I appreciate his attempt at abstract noise, but his vocals just don't suit that style at all.
I never liked the original - it sounded exactly like what it was: a beautiful vocal melody ripped from a decent backing track. I appreciate his attempt at abstract noise, but his vocals just don't suit that style at all.
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