Oh no, don't say that, they'll jump on your ass for sure.
Is there really any need to be that way?
Sorry but I can't ignore the irony here.
Don't you see that's part of the beauty of deliberate ambiguity and vagueness?
No. Sorry to edit your response but I did read and consider it. I think that other person we've been discussing a lot made his lyrics purposely vague too, but I'll confine that to the other thread.
I have studied the idea of whether the intention of the artist needs to be clear in order for the art to be successful. I decided it didn't because art is personal and seperate from the demands of an audience. However there is a difference between the artist developing his own language because the art demands it and a person deliberately blurring the message so that everyone can get their own thing out of it.
I've thought about this quite a lot. I can sort of see it with The Grateful Dead because it fits the nature of one of their core messages that we are all different but all part of something bigger. I just tossed that out there but I'm familiar with their music and saw them several times and I think it's not too far off. Believe it if you need it...
On the other hand, you've probably heard that famous interview with John Lennon where he seems to be bent on exposing Bob Dylan as some sort of fraud. Whatever the personal reasons, and John Lennon was a hugely ego-driven person, he really developed a distaste for Dylan and called his music meaningless and his lyrics "gobbledegook". If you throw a bunch of images out there and have a flair for language you can sound like there is more meaning than there is.
Another example is David Lynch. When I saw Mullholland Drive I wondered if he was just putting a lot of strong images out there in something that resembled an enigmatic story, and challenging people to put their own spin on it. That's valid, in a sense, but it's a whole different and lesser thing than having a specific idea what you are talking about but respecting the audience enough to let them interpret without spoonfeeding them.
So, I did say I accept it if people have their own ideas. But that's a whole differnt thing than celebrating ambiguity for it's own sake. And like I said, ambiguity might be part of The Grateful Dead's toolkit, because of the nature of the role they play (played) to their following.
It is okay for people to see different things. But it's not okay to purposely remain vague in order to serve an audience unless that is what the art demands. Otherwise it's not art.
I think I have avoided discussing Morrissey's personal life pretty well and kept it on the lyrics so I'm not going to start discussing his motives now. I'm just saying that if people see different things and it affects them different ways, that's fine for them, but I'm not going to celebrate ambiguity for the sake of an audience.
obviously. they're the same people who'd kidnapp morrissey and make him endure a back-alley rectal exam....just 'cause they're entitled to know, you know? it's a free country and such...
That's a lovely sentiment. I have read your blog and consider you to be quite interesting and intelligent but it's not on display in that comment. No offense intended.
Finally, for hopefully the last time, there are hundreds of other threads to post on. There have been some really stupid pointless threads here, and this one has merit. Exactly what Alcoholic afternoons said, this looked liked another stupid troll thread,, but I finally checked it out and it's a pretty good thread with people sharing ideas. If it's not to your liking leave it alone. Keeping subthreads going about how you don't like the topic is selfish and childish.
